[Mrs.
Claire Pfann is Assistant Dean for Academic Affairs,
University of the Holy Land, and author and an expert on
Jewish birth practices and the culture of Bethlehem
during the time of Jesus. She was interviewed in
connection with our series entitled Jesus: The
Search Continues. Check the online catalog to
order this series.]
Dr. John Ankerberg:
Was Jesus born in Bethlehem or wasn’t He?
Mrs. Claire Pfann:
I think based on the Gospel accounts we can be sure of
the fact that Jesus was born in Bethlehem. This is
evidenced in Matthew, in Luke, and also by implication
in the Gospel of John. The opponents of Jesus in John,
in their smug attitude, say, "How can this possibly
be the Messiah? Jesus is from Nazareth in the Galilee.
We know that the Messiah will be born in
Bethlehem." And within John’s Gospel, rather than
answering that argument, he remains silent because his
readers already know the fact that Jesus was born in
Bethlehem, a fact that his opponents, for all their
smugness, are unaware.
Ankerberg: Marcus
Borg (of the Jesus Seminar) says, "In all
likelihood Jesus was born in Nazareth, not in Bethlehem.
The fact that Jesus is known as ‘Jesus of Nazareth’
points very, very heavily to Nazareth being his
birthplace." What would you say to that?
Pfann: The
fact that Jesus was called "Jesus of Nazareth"
tells us less about where he was born that about where
he came from as a young adult when he started his
ministry. It tells us that he was known as "Jesus
of Nazareth" because that’s where he lived during
his adolescence. It doesn’t tell us where he was born.
He was born in Bethlehem.
Ankerberg:
Does Matthew contradict Luke by saying that the family
was living in Bethlehem and having Jesus born at home?
Pfann: We
sometimes read Luke and we picture Joseph and Mary
traveling in the rain on a cold December night. And Mary
is in labor, in pain, about to deliver this baby and
Joseph frantically walks from door to door knocking on
the Motel 6’s of Bethlehem—which there weren’t
any, of course—trying to find accommodations. But
actually, if we really read what Luke has to say, he
says they went to Bethlehem, which was Joseph’s
ancestral home. That means they had extended family
there. They were going to a place where they were known
and loved, and where they would receive hospitality. It
also says in the Gospel of Luke, "While they were
there the time came for her to be delivered." Now,
that’s a non-specific amount of time. How long were
they there before the baby was born? Two days? Two
weeks? Two months? It could have been three or four or
five months. We really don’t know. So the picture of
them being in a familial setting, surrounded by people
that they might know, and that might help with the
delivery, is actually supported by both Luke and
Matthew.
Ankerberg:
Is the Church of the Nativity the actual place of Jesus’
birth?
Pfann: The
Church of the Nativity in Bethlehem has strong evidence
to support it as being the place of the birth of Jesus.
Tradition has held it as the birthplace of Jesus for all
these centuries, a tradition that was probably kept
alive by the Jewish Christians in the land from the time
of the Resurrection of Jesus as they searched back into
His origins.
Certainly, the church lies on the
heart of ancient first century Bethlehem, that small
Jewish village of extended patriarchal homes. And if we
look at the archaeology of that type hillside, we would
see, if we could just lift that church off, the kind of
archaeological pattern that would characterize Bethlehem
in the first century.
We could see, for example, the caves
built into the cliffs and how the homes were built on a
multi-level type of terrace plan. We could understand
how the people lived in courtyard homes where they would
walk into the courtyard. There could be an oven. People
could bake. Going off of the courtyard would be a cave
or a basement in which olive oil could be stored and
grains and animals could be tied up overnight for
protection against the weather and bandits. The family
rooms would be extending off another doorway off the
courtyard. There would be a common room where eating
would take place and children might sleep. There might
be another room or two for the grownups and for guests.
It was in such a patriarchal home that Mary and Joseph
probably came shortly before the birth of Jesus and in
which they were embraced by an extended family as they
waited for the birth of this child.
Ankerberg:
Talk about the genealogies in Mathew and Luke. What is
going on?
Pfann: The
genealogies of Matthew and Luke are really quite an
interesting subject for study, even if on the surface
they seem quite boring. Both Matthew and Luke have quite
different purposes to accomplish. Luke wants to show us
through his genealogy that Jesus goes back past Abraham,
to Adam, to God and that Jesus therefore is a suitable
Savior for all of humanity, Jew and Gentile alike.
Matthew, on the other hand, has a very Jewish purpose to
serve with his genealogy and focuses on the Jewish
ancestors of Jesus, showing that He is both the Son of
Abraham, and the Son of David. He also throws in four
women in his genealogy: Tamar, Rahab, Ruth, and
Bathsheba, the wife of Uriah the Hittite, all of whom
had some sexual impropriety associated with their role
in the messianic line, and this is to comfort the
community of Jesus and His followers who have been
accused of sexual impropriety in His conception.
Ankerberg: If
only Luke has the shepherds and the angels, and only
Matthew has the kings and the star, can we trust any of
what they say as historical information?
Pfann: I
think, again, we have to remember that Luke and Matthew
are each choosing what they want to tell about Jesus.
Very important in Luke’s Gospel is the fact that Jesus
is coming to be the shepherd of the sheep, and he is
coming, in particular, to call people who are poor and
outcast and marginalized in society. And in his day,
shepherds were looked down upon. They were marginalized
people. So how significant in the Gospel of Luke that
the first people who should hear the good news of the
birth of the Lamb of God, happened to be shepherds,
sitting in their fields by night. It’s such an
important moment in the Gospel of Luke that there’s an
angelic announcement. What is happening is so important
for salvation history that, for a brief moment, heaven
breaks forth into the earthly sphere and we get to see a
glimpse of this ladder between heaven and earth, of the
angels announcing the good news of the Lamb of God, who
will one day be the shepherd of the sheep. It’s a
beautiful, poetic, way of depicting a theme that will
run through Luke in terms of Jesus’ care for the poor
and downcast.
Ankerberg:
Is it historically probable or improbable that Jesus was
born of a virgin?
Pfann: It’s
historically probable that Jesus was born of a virgin,
and both Matthew and Luke, working independently decades
after His birth as they searched for the data that they
can put together on His birth, come up with that as one
of the 12 points that they share in common–a virgin
birth, a divine conception. There have been many slurs
and innuendos about Jesus, but in this they both agreed.
Ankerberg:
What do you say to those who say Jesus was actually an
illegitimate child? Why is that historically improbable?
Pfann: The
testimony of Scripture about His conception is a clear
testimony. And again, both Matthew and Luke share the
fact that this was not a child born out of immorality
but a child born under unique and divine circumstances.
In the Dead Sea Scrolls we actually find the expectation
that the Messiah would also be called the Son of the
Most High and the Son of God, just as we see in the
Gospel of Luke. And in the Gospel of John, we again get
that type of innuendo, that sarcasm, as the enemies of
Jesus say to Him in John chapter 7, "We were not
born of fornication. We know who our father is,"
implying that He was. Once again, the Gospel of John
does not give any type of rebuttal because the Gospel of
John assumes that its readers know the true
circumstances of Jesus’ birth.
Ankerberg:
In the ABC program The Search for Jesus
Peter Jennings said there’s not a whole lot of things
we can say with certainty about the birth of Jesus. What
are the things that you are certain about concerning the
birth of Jesus?
Pfann: Well,
I think I would say the things I’m certain about
concerning the birth of Jesus are certainly the things
that both Matthew and Luke share in common and tell us.
He was born of the family of David. He was born to a
woman named Mary who was a virgin, betrothed (or
engaged) to a man named Joseph, and yet who had not yet
come to live with him. His birth was announced through
an angelic visitation. His conception was unique and
divine in human history. His birth took place in
Bethlehem. It was accompanied by unique signs. And the
family later moved to Nazareth and made their home
there.
Ankerberg: Roman
tax records do show that a man is to be taxed where he
lives, they said. And Joseph lived and worked in
Nazareth. Tax records also show they didn’t count
women. So why would Joseph have brought Mary on this
very difficult journey from Nazareth to Bethlehem,
through the desert, especially when she was "very,
very pregnant"?
Pfann: Well,
there are just so many things wrong with that question,
aren’t there? Starting off with the fact that maybe
she wasn’t "very, very pregnant" at the time
they made the journey. We pointed out in Luke 2 that it
doesn’t say that she was in labor when she was
traveling to Bethlehem, it says, "while she was in
Bethlehem she went into labor: "the time came for
her to be delivered" number one. Number two: it’s
not that dangerous of a journey to travel from Nazareth
to Bethlehem, and we see that probably the practice was
to travel in groups of people. It would be a three or
four day journey. They would camp out under the stars.
They would bring food with them. And there were not
bandits on every side waiting to attack every traveler.
So I think that we find a few basic presuppositions that
are just our own modern skepticism and really don’t
deal with the reality of the fact that, if Joseph and
Mary had come to live together as a married couple at
this point, why on earth would he leave her at home when
he faced a prolonged absence, waiting for the census to
be accomplished?
Ankerberg:
Did the early Christian church just bring Greek and
Roman mythologies into Christianity to come up with the
story of Jesus’ birth?
Pfann: I
think the last thing in the world that early Christians
wanted to do was to import anything from Greek and Roman
mythology into Christianity. If anything, they had
turned their backs on paganism and polytheism and
mythology, and what they wanted to do was to preserve as
much as possible, the truth about the historical Jesus.
When they talked about the virgin birth, it was because
they believed that, in Jesus, for a unique moment in all
of history, the divine and the human combined in one Son
of God, who became the son of man so that he might cause
the children of men to become sons of God.